# T4T S01E07 - Rethinking Data Structures

a [[Tools for Thinking Podcast]] episode

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## Cover art

Here's the Stable Diffusion-generated cover image for this episode, from the prompt "tktk:"



## Guests

- [Paul Rony](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-rony-5895a824/), founder of [Kosmik](https://www.kosmik.app/)
- [Alex Obenauer](https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexobenauer/), developer of [WonderOS](https://wonderos.org/)
- [John Underkoffler](https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-underkoffler/), developer of [G-Speak]() 

Host: [Jerry Michalski](https://www.jerrymichalski.com/)

## Audio podcast 

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## Video podcast  

- On [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/5rELqjWh8GHBgvmqVHBBmA)
- On [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tjfAjplKs)

Even better: the video, synced to a searchable transcript, all ready for conversation on [Hypothes.is](https://hypothes.is/), is [here](https://docdrop.org/video/o1tjfAjplKs/). 

## Brain screen cap and link

![[T4T S01E07- New Data Structures.jpg]]
https://bra.in/9j3NYE  <-- follow this link to browse this map

## Links mentioned

- [Afraid Their Ideas Would Be Stolen, the Wright Brothers Blew a Ten Year Lead](https://bra.in/9qzdQ6)
- [Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs](https://www.amazon.com/Algorithms-Structures-Prentice-Hall-Automatic-Computation/dp/0130224189/jerrymichalskisr) (1976)
- [Applying the View-Master Metaphor to the OGM Platform](https://bra.in/5qaEWm)
	- [What Are the Fundamental Views We Need on Data?](https://bra.in/8jQYJm)
- [Claris](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claris) (1987-1998, became Filemaker)
- [Danny Dunn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Dunn)
- [Data Structures for Tools for Thinking](https://bra.in/2vPeNJ)
- [Engelbart's 1968 Demo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos) (The Mother of All Demos - MOAD)
- [T4T S01E03: Space, Pixels and Cognition](https://bra.in/5pRbDy) (Yiliu and John)
- [Firebase](https://firebase.google.com/)
- [Future of Operating Systems](https://bra.in/3pKKbr)
- [The Potential Merits of an Itemized OS](https://alexanderobenauer.com/articles/os/1/)
- [WonderOS](https://wonderos.org/)
- [HyperTalk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTalk) (1987)
- [Information Appliances](https://bra.in/7p63zP)
- [Jef Raskin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jef_Raskin) (1945-2005)
	- [Modality with a Vengeance](https://bra.in/4qzdQ6)
- [Interpersonal Computing](https://bra.in/9qaEWm)
	- [Steve Jobs demos NeXT Interpersonal Computing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEr46lCgsic) 1990
- [Kosmik](https://www.kosmik.app/) (2016)
	- [Foundation](https://bra.in/5jQYJm) (database)
- [Polymorphous Data](https://bra.in/8jXDay)
- [Linkido](http://linkido.com)
- [macOS Ventura](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Ventura) (2022)
- [Microsoft Loop](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-loop?ms.url=microsoftcommicrosoft-loop) (2022?)
- [My Childhood Heroes in Fiction](https://bra.in/2q5o6V)
- [Organizing Tools One Step More Complicated than Pinterest, Tumblr and Instagram](https://bra.in/6pKKbr)
- [Original Sin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin)
- [Plan 9](http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/index.html)
- [Scratch](http://scratch.mit.edu/) (2006)
- [Separate Applications from Their Data](https://bra.in/3p63zP)
- [Smalltalk](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalltalk)
- [Standoff Properties](https://bra.in/4qaEWm) (tagging)
- [Systems Built Atop IPFS](https://bra.in/9jQYJm)
	- [Foundation](https://bra.in/5jQYJm) (database)
	- [Noosphere Protocol](https://bra.in/7vNYbW)
- [Technology Interoperability](https://bra.in/5jXDay)
- [The Doug Engelbart Institute](http://www.bootstrap.org) (1988 as Bootstrap Alliance)
- [The Desktop Metaphor and Office Suite Are Tractor Beams for Startups on the Event Horizon](https://bra.in/8pRbGx)
- [Transclusion](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transclusion)
- [What If TheBrain Were the OS for Linux Laptops?](https://bra.in/2pKKbr)
- [What You See Is Almost What I See](https://bra.in/6p63zP)
- [Xerox Star Computer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Star)
- [Tools for Thinking Podcast](https://bra.in/2vGNna) (2022 T4T, TfT)

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